Monday, December 3, 2007

IDEA: Poetrecycling - There's Still Plenty of Use in Those Words

At one point during Connect we got to talking about how when we write a lot of stuff gets edited out. I seem to remember Daan and Sebastian being present, but I think most people who write produce lots of bits and pieces - you know, all the orphaned lines and verses that you came up with and then, as the poem takes shape, discarded, because they didn't seem to fit anymore. Still, you hardly ever get rid of them completely because, well, because you still like them. I have a folder full of these on my computer, and more in random handwritten notes.

So I thought it'd be cool to get those assorted fragments from a a few poets and then remix them into poems. We could either do that only in writing or - maybe - record the authors reading the bits and pieces on video and get VJs to remix them? Or do the same with sound files? Or remix the text first and then only record the relevant bits read by their respective authors? Of course, the coolest thing would be to get a few different remixes of the same material, done by different people - not necessarily poets.

There's all sorts of issues to solve here, obviously, including the language question - do we translate our poetic overspill into English/another bridge language? Do we keep the originals? Also - who exactly will do the remixes? How will we make the results available to the general public?

And the best part is that the raw material is already there - we don't need to write anything new... What do you guys think?

8 comments:

simone said...

Hey Bohdan!
Personally, I think that's a pretty neat concept! :-)
When I read your idea a piece of music came to my mind, where they mix fragments from an interview with electronic music and bass clarinet (of course)... it is very effective, so you might want to listen to that and see how you like that combination!?
I don't know if I can put audio files in this blog, but I'll send you the file somehow :-)

Connect (Robby) said...

Hey Bohdan, if there are any results I could take of somehow presenting them to a bigger audience. I could ask for subsidies from institutes or foundations. Of course it depends on what exactly the outcome is (DVD, CD; book, tour, website etc). I plenty ideas of how to present it to a bigger audience...no worries on that one.

Connect (Robby) said...

oh and by the way: great idea!

Daan Doesborgh said...

Yeah, people get fed up with me always quoting Tom Waits but in an interview about Orphans, where he more or less did the same thing with the songs he had lying around, he called it a collection of poems that fell behind the stove while cooking.

I am certainly in on this one.

roland - groovelastig said...

i feel like i am remixing your poems already ;- )

i am at remix work with weronika's 'noz'; for this one i'm doing a very traditional remix in the means of realizing the initial music i had in mind when halfway across we settled for the live beats (that worked just perfect live but won't carry a recorded piece)

bohdans heartbeats will be made available just as we performed it but improved in sound.

chris and i brainstormed on bohdans city as a gift and came up with nice + playful ideas to en-under-hance-mine it.

-> i'd suggest you poets hook up on text exchange, i'll definitely try and meet some of you next year so we can record things together;

p.s. i have song lyrics as well that appear to me quite remixable ;- )

roland - groovelastig said...

here's one: it's the lyric of 'no use'

hear it: http://www.groovelastig.de/mp3/grvlstg002-b2[no_use].mp3

each line is recorded seperately and then cut bach together;

verse:

a stereophonic quest
just questions / no explanations

a set of jazz
and laid back / irritations

the silence around you
is enhancement / not emptiness

far out of boundaries
of lazy sampling / or trendyness

hook:

and how do you like that
theres no excuses / some you win and some you lose

--..--

what i like about it:

the flow in the song

the thought 'just questions / no explanations'

the line 'the silence around you
is enhancement / not emptiness'

and the rhyme on trendyness

--..--

what i don't like about it:

it's somewhat incoherent, prepositions + conjunctions
generally feel wrong

i hate myself for not having had the nuts to record my intial broke english idea for the hook:

'and how do you like that
theres no excuses / some you win and some you loses'

just because when you 'loses' can you then be arsed to care for correct grammar?

anyone with lyrical suggestion e.g. alternative verse will be so appreciated .. mail me

b. said...

clarinova - thanks! I'd be curious to hear the piece you mentioned. Maybe you can upload the audio somewhere? Like, umm boomp3.com? Then you can link to it from here or embed it and we can all listen.

robby - good to know you're behind this. Right now I think maybe a website would be best - although, hey, who knows. We'd need to see how much comes out of it. And how good it is :)

daan - great! So there's at least two of us. That's the minimum necessary for an exchange, isn't it? So how do we do it? Do we translate our leftovers into English?

b. said...

Roland - I'm sure song lyrics qualify as poetry, and therefore are eminently suitable for remixing :) As soon as we come up with a way to make it work, we'll get your lyrical rejects into the melting pot, too.